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But you specifically asked for me to review it, so here goes. :P
First thing that comes IMMEDIATELY to mind is the really strong compressor you've got on the master channel. It gives the entire song a really bloated feel in the bass ranges, as there's tons of bass coming from both the kick and bass, but it never clips thanks to that compressor of yours, hence the bloated feel. It also sometimes compresses the hihats too so that they pop up at annoying parts of the beat, making the song annoying to listen to, though it didn't happen too badly here... it does make your open hihat a bit hard to listen to, but that's about it. My advice would be to avoid placing anything on the Master channel (except for temporary effects, i.e. an EQ sweep or filter for a buildup, etc.) until the very end of the song. Then, once you do, go for SUBTLE, NOT DRAMATIC! It's one of the biggest problems I see with many people at your level, you may or may not realize it now but it's a bad thing. Do any of the professional songs you'd buy have this kind of compression going on, to this degree? I seriously doubt it. ;)
Second major point are your blatant VEC samples. Namely, the:
1) Hit
2) Kick
3) Intro loop
4) Snare
5) Ride
6) Open hihat
7) "Get" FX
8) Horn FX
And I have suspicions about your sliding sine and crowd as well. Of course some people will recognize some or none of these depending on their familiarity with VEC, and I've probably missed a few myself (judging by that many blatant sounds, the rest may just as easily be VEC also), but the point is, these are recognizable sounds that aren't yours! If the sounds aren't yours, then it's that much harder for you to develop your own style that everyone can recognize you by (and think, many famous artists on and off of NG have their own style, but how many use sounds as blatantly as you have here? Very few I bet). I seriously doubt you don't want your own style and don't mind being just another generic-sounding artist. :P
Which leads me to your synths - first of all, I recognize a Nexus supersaw or two, see the above paragraph. Second, their sound is overall very generic, it all feels "done before" to me. You took the easy way out with your bass and placed it on the offbeat, and the chord progression is a very common one too - be a bit more original than that! ;D What's more, if you're ok with using VEC sounds raw like you have, I wouldn't be surprised if all of these are presets. I certainly can recall hearing most of these synths and sounds (or other sounds closely resembling them) from various other songs I've heard in the past.
Something I DID like about this song was the very high overall energy and the structure/pacing, which caught me, perhaps because they seem (to me anyway) to match up well - rarely done on Newgrounds. :P The stuttered voice at 3:17 was nice to hear as well, I haven't heard anything quite like it so it sounded like a nice addition to me... it's a shame it didn't pop up elsewhere in the song. :(
I think that's about all I've got to say for this song. Hopefully all this advice should help you out some, I'd be glad to give you another review once you submit a song that shows real improvement to me! Even if it doesn't show real improvement, I can always comment it on MSN, just ask. ;D Keep it up!
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It's been a while, I believe I really enjoyed the preview, let's see what I think this time around... sorry I took a while to get to it, but I've been busy. ;)
First off, if you used Nexus, then you HAD to have used presets... perhaps modified presets, but presets nonetheless. :P
Second, I recognize your shaker line out of Nexus's Factory Presets, under Textures and FX I believe. Just like last time I think. :\ Its sound doesn't really fit all that well with the rest of the song, either - it just stands out and gives this kinda corny sound, and the fact that it's mostly noise (like white noise or something, not loudness :P) doesn't really help it much.
Your bass is really loud in your intro there, I can hardly at all hear the boom, or almost the punch, of the kick, while it plays. It's almost a click in comparison. I'd EQ it some, cutting the bass frequencies a fair though not extreme amount, so you have more balance between the two. The bass also makes the entire song hard to listen to - it overpowers nearly everything, I can hear the hihats ducking under it, for example. It even distorts a small amount in places... :\
I don't hear any kind of overpowering c
ompressors on the master channel, which is a good thing, considering a ton of the songs I've reviewed lately have had one. ;) Just a tip while I'm at it, you might know this already, but why not? When putting the finishing touches on the full song, aim for subtle effects when FXing the master channel, instead of dramatic ones.
Other than all of that, though, I've got nearly nothing to say. :) I'm sure most of this was obvious to you already anyway, I don't believe you needed my review. :P I'll give this an 8 (with better mixing you could have earned a 9 :( ), though I'll vote 5. Good luck this week, hopefully I'll see this song somewhere on the Weekly Top 5... ;D
Author's Response:
Yeh the bass might be a lil loudy ;D
I'll fix it.
Shakersz less noise.. will do
Thanks for the tips, its just hard to do every little detail correct at the first time, but next time it will work out better.
Thanks for ur time ^^
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Just so you know, I don't typically review people who just send me a PM, or even ask in a review, simply because my reviews take so much time and effort. But I've seen you around the Trance section and the AF, and your songs aren't that bad, so I say it's about time I got around to reviewing your stuff. :P
Intro is nice, though in the very beginning, I smell a loop... :O It's no big deal really. I really get problems with loops when I recognize them, and I don't really recognize this one.
Your bass synth sounds kinda weird, like you put some Predelay on the reverb which causes it to come in and muddy up the mix at random-sounding moments in the beat. The actual synth is ok, but kinda plain sounding. I'd aim for a more creative-sounding one... try messing with EVERYTHING. Degraders are my personal favorite, though you can try distortion, filters, delay and reverb... anything, as long as it sounds awesome. ;D
The drums sound somewhat random. Maybe it's because of this "Jungle" feel you've got, and the fact that I'm much more used to the kick-clap-kick-clap feel with a hihat line behind it all. But I'd suggest saving the bongos for the transitions, where you can do an awesome freestyle thing. :D You have a ride sample that stands out to me, it doesn't sound like it fits either... I'd just pick a better sample. The kick is actually pretty good when it comes in, but as the song progresses it becomes easy to realize it doesn't really have any boom to it... which it should have. :P Last drum I've got to mention is the clap, which actually sounds pretty good to me. Nice job there. XD
I'd have progressed the song a bit more in the intro past the drums and the bass, perhaps introducing at least some kind of arp or pad, or SOMETHING, before the break, to keep the song interesting? You can't count on bongos forever. ;D
The buildup sounds really generic to me, especially with the one-two-three-four crash at the very end (2:22). There's no real tension in it either, just a kick and crash playing together a few times. There are two peaks in there, so perhaps you could save the epic buildup for the second one, but still... more energy. ;D
Break... the melody sounds simple but I won't judge right away. :P
Ok, it is pretty simple. XD The song sounds to me like some kind of mix between trance and happy hardcore, so it sounds "done before" to me... just because the happy sound is heard so often on NG. Now, if you could use the same tribal feel with melodic trance, possibly even using some kind of dissonance, I'd REALLY be impressed. :D The melody's ok overall. I was just expecting more, I guess, than something as simple as it was. :\
You add in another bass in the peaks. What's more, it's on the offbeat? :\ I'd stick to one bass synth, for consistency reasons... it's a lot easier to listen to a trance song if it has only one bass synth, which most trance songs (and Dance, and most electronic songs in general I believe) do.
Your progression is kinda weird, namely in the second half of the song. The second break isn't actually a break, it's just the intro all over again for a little while. The whole point of a high-energy song (which this one seems to be in the peaks) is to build up tension REALLY high, so when it's released, all of that energy breaks loose. ;D The best way to do that would be to, first, bring energy really low. I don't know about you, but I like my true peak towards the end, and since you have two peaks, I'd recommend the second half of the song to be more polar than the first. That is, the second break should have less energy than the first, the second buildup should have more tension, and the second peak should have more energy. ;) You do the opposite here. There's no break, almost no tension in the buildup, and the peak is exactly the same. See what I'm saying? ;) Last, the ending's lacking, I was expecting something more progressive. It's trance after all.
That's about all I've got to say for this song... overall, I'll give it an 8/10 and 4/5. You seem to know what you're doing for the most part, keep at it. :)
Author's Response:
Thanks for the great review man, I'll try to give it a good response :D
Well first of all, I dont see why the bass is a problem here, I tried to make it sound as original as I could and in my opinion it doesnt make the mix "muddy".
RANDOM DRUMS??!?!?! Wtf??!?! Dude seriously I spent like 5 days trying to make every drum and percussion I used sound good and harmonious, sorry but I totally have to disagree with that...though I agree about the arp, great idea ^^ I'll try it in my next song.
Yeah, the melody is pretty simple, sorry but Im a drummer :D Not that good at melodies, but Im getting better ;D
"Mix between Trance and Happy Hardcore" Mhmmm...dude, seriously do you know what ur talking about??? This is Tribal Trance(Dance) -.-'
Sorry but I totally disagree with you about the second bass line and the progression of the song, I think its good that way, besides, this is music man, theres no rules or formulas to make it, you just have to feel it! ;D (Btw in the second break I tried to give the song a drum solo feel, dont be so close-minded!)
The buildups, well I think it sounds good that way, the first build up introduces everything; chords, melody, arp...so in my opinion theres no reason to make a second large buildup, its okay that way ^^
Well, thanks 4 your time bro, I apreciate your dedication on this review ^^
Peace!
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