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Here's a LOT of advice for you...hope it helps.

Hmm. So this is your first song ever? Then expect a long, painful, technical review...mehehehehe. >=D

Well, for one, it starts out a bit too quietly, with only a few drums. Your drum patterns are fairly simple - you do change things up a bit, but you're missing a few crucial things. Firstly, it sounds very off-key. In most Techno songs, you need a kick drum of some kind taking the first beat of each measure. The two hihats you open the song with are waaaay too plain and sound offbeat whenever you use them. I'll elaborate on that when I go into song structure. The snare drums are weak, and any other drums I haven't mentioned either were unnecessary or too quiet for me to hear them. Overall, they're simple, and unprofessional-sounding... you need, (A) better samples, and (B) better rhythms and organization.

Okay, so I'll move on to your melody. It's decent in the beginning, though it gets worse as it goes on and takes waaaaaay too long to loop. Neverending or long melodies often, in my opinion, make a song worse. You need something consistent and catchy to come back to. A melody is what the listener hums, right? ;)

You have no harmonies in this song, which is a huge dissapointment. You need a bass to hold things up in the back with lower notes... actually, your melody would make a good bass if you just lowered it an octave or two. Then you'd just have to think of a melody, which I described above as consistent, catchy, and something the listener would hum to. Mind you, there's more to harmonies than that - you could have used a pad, maybe, and a few other synths playing harmonies would work nicely - remember the melody's always louder, but never overpowering!

There's no attitude in this song, no atmosphere - but I can't expect that from a first song. You do come fairly close to having one at times, though, which is good for a first try.

Your sound choice could definitely use some work. I explained most of it above, but I'll summarize myself about it here as well: Your drums aren't well chosen, you're missing a kick drum, you need to replace a few drums, i.e. the snare drum, your synth that plays the melody isn't very well-chosen and gets annoying, and then you didn't even have any harmonies to begin with.

One tidbit of advice is that I don't think you listen to enough techno - try listening to some of the better artists on the portal and famous professional techno artists often and you'll figure out the structure of the songs after a while.

There - if you read all of this, I certainly hope this truckload of advice helps you out. Unfortunately, this song's going to recieve a low score even by first-song standards, but I'm going to be kind enough not to do anything about the current score it has. Still, that doesn't mean you should stop - it's not like the best techno artists woke up one day and started cranking out their hits, right? Practice and you'll get there someday. =) I hope all of this advice helped.

New-Milkman responds:

This is THE best review ever. I <3 long reviews over ones like mine, because then I'll actually learn from other better people. The only problem is that I don't know what you're talking about sometimes, so it looks like it's time to do some learning Google style. You are awesome, thanks for the review! \m/ (-_-) \m/

Professional-sounding...

It starts out quietly and you evolve the song into quite the Trance.

A piano solo... hmm, and bass with it. You do a good job here, though you take your time moving along and adding new things, even for a trance, in my opinion, though eventually you do.

Kicks, good... and now you bring in the rest of the song, with the hihats and everything... your synths/sounds/ec. are very well chosen here. I especially like your percussion, which is simple and well-done.

Overall a good song. Keep going, I can see you making some great stuff someday. You have my 5.

One last thing - any chance you can stop by my audio page sometime? A review for either of my two latest would be nice, too. Much appreciated.

JVUnderground responds:

This is the type of review that I love. Thanks alot.

So you want to be the best trance producer, huh?

Sorry I've taken a while to stop by - I haven't had time. Let's see what you've made as your latest.

Wow, just from the introduction it's sounding very, very professional.

So basically it's a bunch of lyrics which go for a bit too long in my opinion for your introduction... that thing that's supposed to be a group clap, I think, doesn't fit the first time you introduce it in the interlude with no lyrics, as it sounds too short and not reeverbed, but once you reintroduce the lyrics it sounds good.

Later in the song when you've got a hihat playing twice in quick succession, it sounds quite unprofessional and unrhythmic and was a bad move, in my opinion. You do it again later with similar results.

Your ending is decent - no comments here. Overall a very good song. If your first submission was your first song, you definitely have a faster learning curve than I do, for we started at about the same time... hah! Good job with this, keep submitting. You have my 5. Go ahead and PM me if you ever want another review, it's never too much.

Pulstate responds:

I'd love more reviews mate, all the reviews i can get. :)

A great song deserves a great review.

So here's a very, very long one. I might review one of your more recent sometime soon, too.

Your story's very interesting... after the suggestions in terms of the song itself, I'll share whatever comes to my mind.

You begin the piece (and by begin, I mean everything before the laughter) very elegantly and very well. You do a great job here, it seems a lot of effort went into this.

The part immediately following the laughter is good, though I feel the brass, in the beginning, didn't do enough of a job supporting the song with lower, longer notes. Later on, though, it's better but still lacking. Reintroducing the lower strings from the very beginning might have worked, though I'm not entirely sure.

Unfortunately, I'm not that good with instrument names, but when you bring everything out to an interlude-ish section with that violin-like instrument (name?) and later introduce a choir, it sounds epic (the entire song does, actually, but here is its peak in my opinion) and if you had been able to figure out how to get the choir to actually "sing," rather than just one vowel, it would have sounded amazing. Great work overall, on this song.

Images, images... I get a desperate, put-off argument between two sides. One is sad and desperate, the other annoyed and irritated, a hair away from anger. The introduction, before the laughter, is the lower side of the two presenting its case and wishes, the part right after that up to the interlude-ish part the other side taking control and hitting anger, as the other side shrinks back and vanishes for the moment as attention shifts entirely to the angry side, giving a soliloquy. (A speech alone. You can blame Shakespeare English class. Hah.)

The part after the interlude is the lower, not-in-control side returning the argument, with a little more force this time. Unfortunately, the song ends before the argument can finish, and unfortunately my story is cut off. But it's yours you were crafting this to and you did a magnificent job with that.

One question - no, it's not about reviewing - where do you get your instruments for these songs? (There's a chance I may start an orchestral song sometime soon.) Any non-soundfont site in particular? (Though a soundfont site would work, too.) Unfortunately, I have yet to get the Soundfont player... I'm trying.

In any case, this has my 5, 10, and download. Keep up the great work.

MaestroRage responds:

wow, impressively large review Karco. The instruments before the choir were spiccato violins which is pretty much just quick notes played on the strings.

I like your image, two sides arguing eh? Truth be told my story has some arguing in it as well, but things are exploding while the talking goes on :D.

The beginning did take a good deal of effort, not so much because of it's construction, but more so for me learning some small things in making electronic music which is still a field I am wanting to explore.

As for the instruments, i'll send you a pm explaining!

By soundfont player you mean the one in Fruity Studios? I don't think you need to set that one up, just drag and drop the soundfont instrument onto the mixer window.

Anyways, PM time! Thank you for the review, i'm glad you liked it ^^.

Has its good parts and bad parts.

Hey, a new song! Review time!

Hmmm... well, it starts out very amateaurish-sounding - the snare drums aren't a good choice at all. At least, not that one.

The song does get better as it goes on, though... now I see where it got the title, Misshapen Dream. Synths sound offtone and the song's overall inconsistent - though you do that well. Eeeeewww... now there's a really loud synth playing the same note and overpowering everything else. Not pleasant on the ears. Thankfully, the section after that is MUCH better.

Not much else to say about the rest... this song has its good parts, and it has its bad parts. I do hear what sound like quality vocals later on, though I could be wrong. Normally I'd rate a song like this a 4, but I'll give it a 5 just because I'm nice enough to keep it at its perfect score. Hah!

Any chance you could stop by and review my latest, Nova, sometime? I'm really proud of it and consider it my best, by far. Much appreciated.

DistortionResonance responds:

Sry for it taking so long to reply back but yeah I will check out your song and review it only fair you gave us your input might as well share ours.

Hmmm...

You're not responding to reviews as often... why not? Your reviewers are DYING to hear what you have to say about their reviews...(BLATANT HINT HINT) The song's starting, so I'll start reviewing, too.

It definitely sounds better than your others... you're improving, Drumr, you're definitely improving. The orchestral introduction is great... it might not be your melodies and harmonies, but it's definitely amazing. Do you know how good you are at that? You should make a full-orchestral piece sometime.

...so where's the techno? XD Did you just submit this in the wrong genre or something? I heard a reverse cymbal just now... oh, never mind. I'm hearing the techno now. It sounds... well, hate to say it, but I'm hearing that same hihat again. Good points go to the new synth, pad, and snare drum that you're using, though.

Huh... you just slowed it down. Back to orchestral? You do very good here... this song feels like an orchestral piece with a little bit of techno just stuck there for no real reason. Again, you really should try making a full orchestral piece sometime... you'd be good at it. =) Keep submitting.

Another great song. =)

Your kicks that you start with are a bit annoying, but then the song gets great as you introduce everything. I notice a distinct style common to this and your other song, Quest for Truth... this belongs in a video game. =) Though this seems to fit a boss fight more, rather than an adventure level like Quest for Truth does. =)

Your synths and drums are well-chosen and organized, and the song's melodic - but not to the same genius degree as Quest for Truth. One nice touch is that... there! Just for a second, it sounds like a chase scene. Which is a nice touch you give it without making it lose its seemingly intended attitude.

Parts of this song seem to be a bit cliched, as well - but you do it right. You're really good at this... just a question - what program do you use to make your music?

This is another great song - it has my 5 and download, though you'll have to work just a bit harder to get that 10. ;) Keep submitting songs, and please PM me if you ever want another review... it's never too much! =D I look forward to more from you. =)

Swift-Reason responds:

When I was in the process of making this track it kinda reminded me of the song that JP from the movie Grandma's Boy was listening to in his office.

I really enjoy reading great reviews like this..not necessarily because you liked the song but because you took the time to write such an in depth review. But I do appreciate the appreciation for appreciating my music..lol

Thanks
Swift-Reason

Hello, again. =)

Thanks again for reviewing my songs. =) Now it's your turn to read a review of mine... you haven't submitted since January? You need to submit a bit more often than that! =D

Wow, I just noticed two of your songs got used in submissions... congratulations! What's your secret? XD Enough off-topic stuff, though... onto the review. =)

This seems to be a very unique song. =) You start out very nicely - it gives off a very nice video game sound. I can see this very easily in a famous video game. And every time you change things up it gets better. That's a 10 for Originality and Diversity, right there. =D

Your sounds are very, very well-chosen and fit your idea perfectly. As do your melodies, and harmonies - at time this is very first-rate and melodic. Your percussion is well-organized, and it sounds, again, first-rate.

Great job with this song... I honestly have no criticism for it, which is rare. You excelled in your atmosphere, melodies, harmonies, percussion, and sound choice. You've got my download, 5, and 10. =D Expect a review for a few of your other songs sometime. =)

Swift-Reason responds:

It's really wonderful to get such an awesome review. Thank you for taking the time to put so much thought into it. These reviews help me focus on my direction with the music I make and it's definitely appreciated.

I actually have another track that I'm working on and I hope it can live up to the level that I set for Quest for Truth. Every day I learn something new about FL6 and I try to use it. I just wish more people could find my music.

Thanks again
Swift-Reason

Hmm... you haven't submitted in a while.

You need to keep submitting regardless of anything if you want to get anywhere on NG, you know... assuming you've been consistently making music since the last time you've submitted, and at the same rate at which you submit, I really can't give accurate advice. Still, I'll give you advice for this song. =)

It starts out very nicely, with good atmosphere... you could change things up a bit sooner, though. That high-pitched, echoing synth you introduce later doesn't fit at all, though, and gives me a headache. You introduce percussion at a good time, though it doesn't change often. The synth you introduce after percussion, while it brings a good harmony, isn't a good choice and doesn't contribute to the attitude of the song. Something else I noticed is that you don't give anyone any reason to keep listening to the song... true, parts of it are catchy, but you change little and some parts are a bit annoying. Worstly, there's no ending - what's a song without one?

You're very good with harmonies and atmospheres, it seems, but have trouble using them and keeping consistent with them. It seems you also find melodies and percussion and having diversity difficult. You have trouble choosing the right synths/sounds/percussion instruments/etc. Work on these weak points and you'll be well on your way to making a decent song.

One other tip for you is for you to try listening to some more professional techno more often, even if it just means listening to more famous artists in the portal. It'll help some. =) Hope to hear more from you sometime... go ahead and PM me if you want a review later on. =)

Great song! =)

Gah... I'm a bit late. This song's been playing for a few minutes now and I need to start reviewing it before I forget. XD

It sounds very professional... your synths are well chosen, as are your drums. The strings you introduce partially into the beginning are a pleasant surprise and remain consistent and fitting throughout. Your percussion is well-done, and it's melodic. You do nice things with the melodies and harmonies at times, to build things up a bit more.

I especially like it towards the end of the song (it feels like it, anyway) when you've got what feels like everything playing in a final stretch to the end of the song. I'm not surprised there's piano in there, though I am surprised that you ended with it. Huh. Overall another great song. =) I've voted 5 on it. =)

Last thing: you know, I'm new to your songs - mind giving me a list of your best songs so I can listen to and maybe download them? The more on the list, the better. =P Thanks a lot. =)

dj-padman1 responds:

Thanks very much for reviewing and providing some good detail ;)
Thanks also for taking an interest in my lil' music page. I'll provide a list of tracks which I think aren't too bad...Let see..
4. Flotsam, 10. Klung, 12, 13 a couple of trancers there, 15. Sand Castling, 21. Everlasting, 23, 24, 28 Electroflipper, 32 - 36, maybe 46-49.
Well, feel free to dip into those any time you want. :)
If you like drum and bass I have plenty of those..some of those got popular, some were hated! Its about 50/50 :P

I contributed to the Newgrounds Audio community between 2007 and 2010 as an electronic music artist, a reviewer, and, briefly, an audio mod. I still make music! Go to the links section here to see where. 🏳️‍⚧️

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